# Technology Got Safer, But The Smartest Hackers Don't Hack. They Just Ask | An Interview with Lee Clark | An Analog Brain In A Digital Age With Marco Ciappelli — On Location at Infosecurity Europe 2026

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Published: 2026-06-20T16:03:44+00:00
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The most dangerous attacks at Infosecurity Europe 2026 weren't the high-tech ones. Lee Clark of the Retail & Hospitality ISAC sits down with me to explain why the soft target is still a human being — a help desk, a new hire, a phone ringing at dinner — and what stays in our hands as the shopper quietly becomes an algorithm.

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