# Still Stuck in Compliance: How Come Security Hasn't Earned Its Seat at the Business Table? | An On Location Conversation at RSAC 2026 with Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli

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Published: 2026-04-04T12:39:04+00:00
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At RSAC Conference 2026, Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli step away from the sessions and the show floor for a candid ten-minute exchange about what two breakfast conversations with CISOs revealed -- security is still treated as a compliance obligation, not a business driver, and the culture gap between the security industry and the rest of society is wider than ever.

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