# A Forrester Analyst on the Security Roles Coming Next — and What AI Makes Obsolete in Cybersecurity | A Conversation with Madelein van der Hout | On Location With Sean Martin And Marco Ciappelli — Infosecurity Europe 2026 Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-itspmagazine-podcast-938250/a-forrester-analyst-on-the-security-roles-coming-next-and-what-ai-makes-obsolete-in-cybersecurity-a-conversation-with-madelein-van-der-hout-on-location-with-sean-martin-and-marco-ciappelli-infosecurity-europe-2026 Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-itspmagazine-podcast-938250/a-forrester-analyst-on-the-security-roles-coming-next-and-what-ai-makes-obsolete-in-cybersecurity-a-conversation-with-madelein-van-der-hout-on-location-with-sean-martin-and-marco-ciappelli-infosecurity-europe-2026.md Podcast: [The ITSPmagazine Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-itspmagazine-podcast-938250) Published: 2026-07-01T12:47:14+00:00 Episode link: https://itspradio.com/episodes/a-forrester-analyst-on-the-security-roles-coming-next-and-what-ai-makes-obsolete-in-cybersecurity-a-conversation-with-madelein-van-der-hout-on-location-with-sean-martin-and-marco-ciappelli-infosecurity-europe-2026-pwOQzgZc Audio file: https://chtbl.com/track/1CBDEF/afp-110348-injected.calisto.simplecastaudio.com/0310f993-fbb0-4fcc-b698-db9af99f73ca/episodes/b964a8ec-ccef-49af-803b-147383895db0/audio/128/default.mp3?aid=rss_feed&awCollectionId=0310f993-fbb0-4fcc-b698-db9af99f73ca&awEpisodeId=b964a8ec-ccef-49af-803b-147383895db0&feed=uHBB4m9X Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-itspmagazine-podcast-938250/episodes/a-forrester-analyst-on-the-security-roles-coming-next-and-what-ai-makes-obsolete-in-cybersecurity-a-conversation-with-madelein-van-der-hout-on-location-with-sean-martin-and-marco-ciappelli-infosecurity-europe-2026 Duration seconds: 1814 ## Resource Two conferences, two moods: at RSA the drumbeat was resilience; at InfoSec, it's sovereignty. Sean and I close the week with Forrester analyst Madelein van der Hout — beaming in from the Netherlands — on why Europe makes a framework out of everything, what AI deployment is doing to the boardroom, and the security jobs that don't exist yet. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-itspmagazine-podcast-938250/episodes/a-forrester-analyst-on-the-security-roles-coming-next-and-what-ai-makes-obsolete-in-cybersecurity-a-conversation-with-madelein-van-der-hout-on-location-with-sean-martin-and-marco-ciappelli-infosecurity-europe-2026/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-itspmagazine-podcast-938250/a-forrester-analyst-on-the-security-roles-coming-next-and-what-ai-makes-obsolete-in-cybersecurity-a-conversation-with-madelein-van-der-hout-on-location-with-sean-martin-and-marco-ciappelli-infosecurity-europe-2026.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.