# The agentic identity crisis

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Podcast: [The ITPro Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-itpro-podcast-1191840)
Published: 2026-02-06T08:40:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.itpro.com/the-it-pro-podcast
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## Resource

Identity controls in the enterprise have only become more complicated over the last few years. Initially, the focus was on IoT devices, which were exploding in the enterprise environment. But recent years have brought an onslaught of AI tools and AI agents, all of which come with security and governance complications. How can business leaders get a grip on the adoption of AI agents, particularly as these tools begin to communicate with one another and with third-party enterprise tools? In this episode, Rory speaks to Shiven Ramji, president, Auth0 at Okta, to discuss the future of identity, security and governance in the face of AI agents.

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