# SOGNO E PRAGMATISMO - Con MARIO CALABRESI

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Podcast: [The Italian Dream](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-italian-dream-7897052)
Published: 2026-06-04T23:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Gli italiani sanno ancora sognare? In che modo burocrazia, pessimismo e paura rischiano di rappresentare un freno per il Paese? Nel primo episodio di The Italian Dream Alec Ross, Mario Calabresi ed Elena Alberti aprono un dialogo sull’Italia di oggi, sulle sue difficoltà, sulla tensione tra sogno e pragmatismo e sul modo in cui queste dimensioni possono coesistere in modo virtuoso.

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