# TIP806: Wise PLC w/ Kyle Grieve and Daniel Mahncke

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Published: 2026-04-10T00:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Kyle Grieve is joined by co-host Daniel Mahncke to discuss Wise PLC, a London-listed FinTech company that enables cheap and fast cross-border payments by matching local flows rather than moving money internationally through costly SWIFT networks. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:04:45 - The clever mechanism Wise uses to move money without actually crossing borders 00:09:14 - Why two Estonians at a London party ended up disrupting global banking 00:13:44 - How Wise earns revenue from four streams 00:21:44 - Which of Wise's three competitor industries is the most threatening and why 00:26:04 - How fast payments have become at Wise 00:42:12 - Why deliberately lowering your own prices can be a sign of business strength 01:08:12 - The flywheel that makes Wise harder to beat, the larger it grows 01:10:35 - What to make of the CEO controversy 01:23:51 - How Wise's capital allocation stacks up against Buffett's ultimate litmus test 01:30:26 - What the numbers suggest investors could earn holding Wise Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TIP Mastermind Community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn how to join us in Omaha for the Berkshire meeting ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Kyle and Daniel use Fiscal.ai for every company they research — use their referral link to get started with a 15% discount! Read about cross-border payments 101. Read more on Wise, featured in Wall Street’s Blind Spots. Listen to a conversation with Wise’s CEO, Kristo Käärmann. Follow Kyle on ⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠. Related ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠b…

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