# TIVP079 (Video): American Tower (AMT): The Wide Moat Business Your Phone Can't Live Without w/ Kyle Grieve & Shawn O'Malley

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Published: 2026-06-28T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Kyle Grieve and Shawn O’Malley analyze American Tower, the global cell tower business that powers the wireless networks we rely on every day. They unpack how leasing tower space to carriers creates durable recurring revenue, why its stacked competitive advantages form one of the widest moats in the market, and how a steadily growing debt load complicates the picture. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: (00:00:00) Intro (00:00:44) How American Tower powers the wireless networks we use (00:05:52) How AMT creates recurring revenue (00:07:04) Why adding additional tenants dramatically boosts profits per tower (00:12:56) The three moats protecting American Tower from competitors (00:30:22) Why the REIT structure forces heavy reliance on debt (00:36:56) What American Tower's capital allocation reveals about management (00:38:36) Whether the data center deal was worth it (00:52:19) How carrier consolidation threatens even the widest moats (00:56:22) Why a wonderful business isn't always a wonderful investment (01:06:48) Intrinsic value of AMT (01:09:04) Whether Kyle and Shawn will add AMT to the Intrinsic Value Portfolio Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Intrinsic Value Mastermind Community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Track ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Intrinsic Value Portfolio⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Brad Jacob’s first book, ⁠⁠How to Make A Few Billion Dollars⁠⁠. Brad Jacob’s follow-up book, ⁠⁠How to Make A Few More Billion Dollars⁠⁠. Listen to Brad Jacob’s ⁠⁠interview with David Senra⁠⁠. Follow Kyle on ⁠⁠⁠⁠…

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