# TIVP078 (Video): Copa Holdings (CPA): Is Buffett right about Airline Stocks? w/ Daniel Mahncke & Shawn O’Malley

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Published: 2026-06-21T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O'Malley take a deep dive into Copa Holdings — the Panama-based hub-and-spoke airline whose investment case now turns on two of the most debated questions in the stock today: whether Copa is a structural exception to the airline curse — protected by a geography no rival can copy and a cost base only a handful of carriers in the world can match — or whether even the best airline in the Americas eventually gets pulled into the same gravity that has destroyed value for nearly every other carrier. Some investors believe Copa is a structural exception the market consistently underprices because it's lumped in with the broader sector, with a Panama hub at the geographic center of the hemisphere that lets it serve 85 destinations using nothing but single-aisle 737s, a sub-6¢ ex-fuel cost base only Ryanair, Wizz Air, and a couple of others can match, a 99.8% completion rate that turns the "missed flight" tax hammering other carriers into one of Copa's structural cost advantages, and a 38-year CEO who has refused to expand into Europe or chase growth at any price. Join Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O'Malley as they work through whether Copa's hub-and-spoke economics are genuinely uncopiable or just holding off the gravity that has eventually captured nearly every other airline, examine what Copa's structural advantages actually look like in 2026 versus the "all airlines destroy capital" narrative the market still anchors to, and assess whether Copa Holdings deserves a spot in The Intrinsic Value Portfolio. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: (00:00:00) Intro (00:00:47) Why airlines are such a tough business to be in (00:02:49) What Buffett and other superinvestors think (00:16:05) Why Copa is different than other airlines (00:30:41) How being the best-in-class bus…

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