# Want to ‘Optimize’ Your Happiness? This Happiness Expert Says: Don’t.

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Podcast: [The Interview](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-interview-5452112)
Published: 2026-05-30T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Laurie Santos on what will really bring meaning and fulfillment to your life, and what won’t.

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