# Simon Cowell Is Sorry, Softer and Grieving Liam Payne

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Podcast: [The Interview](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-interview-5452112)
Published: 2025-11-29T10:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.nytimes.com/column/the-interview
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