# Joy Phumaphi, African Leaders Malaria Alliance: Malaria is an all of society challenge Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-interview-1016532/joy-phumaphi-african-leaders-malaria-alliance-malaria-is-an-all-of-society-challenge Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-interview-1016532/joy-phumaphi-african-leaders-malaria-alliance-malaria-is-an-all-of-society-challenge.md Podcast: [The Interview](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-interview-1016532) Published: 2026-03-25T00:30:00+00:00 Episode link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct7x7x Audio file: http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/6/redir/version/2.0/mediaset/audio-nondrm-download-rss-low/proto/http/vpid/p0n8hz2t.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-interview-1016532/episodes/joy-phumaphi-african-leaders-malaria-alliance-malaria-is-an-all-of-society-challenge Duration seconds: 1380 ## Resource “Malaria is an all of society challenge. When you look at the environmental issues, addressing the breeding sites for mosquitoes, it’s an all of society issue…it is not just the responsibility of the heads of state.” Daniel Dadzie hears from Joy Phumaphi, Executive Secretary of the African Leaders Malaria Alliance, or ALMA. ALMA was founded with the goal of eradicating malaria in Africa by 2030. Now, Joy Phumaphi concedes this is not going to happen. In fact, she says only a few countries across the continent will hit this target, thanks to a “perfect storm” of climate change, insecticide and drug resistance, spiralling costs and cuts in aid. She also highlights the risk that private sector development projects can create breeding grounds for mosquitoes. Thank you to Daniel Dadzie, Albert Kirui and Brian Khisa their help in making this programme. The Interview brings you conversations with people shaping our world, from all over the world. The best interviews from the BBC, including episodes with South Africa’s Health Minister Aaron Motsoaledi and Sarah Mullally, the Archbishop of Canterbury. You can listen on the BBC World Service on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays at 0800 GMT. Or you can listen to The Interview as a podcast, out three times a week on BBC Sounds or wherever you get your podcasts. Presenter: Daniel Dadzie Producer: Albert Kirui, Brian Khisa and Lucy Sheppard Editors: Damon Rose and Justine Lang Get in touch with us on email TheInterview@bbc.co.uk and use the hashtag #TheInterviewBBC on social media. (Image: Joy Phumaphi Credit: Andrew H. Walker/Getty Images) ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-interview-1016532/episodes/joy-phumaphi-african-leaders-malaria-alliance-malaria-is-an-all-of-society-challenge/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-interview-1016532/joy-phumaphi-african-leaders-malaria-alliance-malaria-is-an-all-of-society-challenge.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.