# How the Right Really Wins | Lord Matthew Elliott

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Podcast: [The Insurgency with Steve Baker](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-insurgency-with-steve-baker-7492429)
Published: 2026-07-06T14:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Sponsored by Glint - buy, save and spend real physical gold with a Glint Mastercard®. Visit glintpay.com to find out more.You can buy Lord Elliott's excellent new book, 'Ten Years On: The Untold Story of Brexit – Reflections on a Life of Campaigning', here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ten-Years-Untold-Reflections-Campaigning/dp/1837360758.Steve Baker and Harry Richer sit down with Lord Matthew Elliott, the strategist behind the TaxPayers’ Alliance, Big Brother Watch, NOtoAV and Vote Leave, to ask how the right really wins – and why its victories so rarely shrink the state or entrench prosperity. Together they trace Elliott’s journey from Milton Friedman and Hayek to Westminster power, unpack his three‑M playbook of messages, messengers and media, and explore what a serious, pro‑market right must build next if Britain is to become freer, richer, and less complacent.📰 Exclusive post-show: voices.fightingforafreefuture.com🛒 Merch: shop.fightingforafreefuture.com📧 Advertise or partner: liam@stevebaker.info

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