# Natasha Johns Messenger on Site-Determined Installation and Public Art

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Podcast: [The Installation Art Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-installation-art-podcast-6681769)
Published: 2025-02-25T01:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Episode 28 features an in-depth conversation with Australian-American artist Natasha Johns Messenger, renowned for her architectural interventions, site-determined work and public art commissions. Key insights from this interview include: • How her educational journey shifted her from figurative painting to abstraction and then installation art and filmmaking. • The distinct creative and logistical differences between public art and to museum installations. • Behind-the-scenes stories of unexpected technical issues and the importance of the right collaborators in her creative process. • The impact of her filmmaking studies on her artistic career and the dream projects she envisions for the future. 00:00 Quick Fire Questions 03:38 Early Artistic Influences 07:23 Art School Journey 12:48 First Exhibitions and Installations 16:19 Expanding Horizons: New York and Beyond 37:13 Public Art vs. Installation Art 42:17 Public Perception of Art 45:30 Challenges in Public Art Installations 48:23 Unexpected Installation Issues 55:10 Career Decisions and Filmmaking 59:09 Significant Opportunities 01:04:11 Dream Projects and Future Plans 01:05:55 Meeting the Queen of Holland 01:09:06 Current and Upcoming Projects 01:15:15 Public Artworks to Visit Find out more about her work on her website: https://www.natashajohnsmessenger.com/   Follow her Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/natashajohnsmessenger Also mentioned in this episode: Robert Irwin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Irwin_(artist) RMIT: https://www.rmit.edu.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/rmituniversity/ | @rmit Gertrude Contemporary: https://gertrude.org.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/gertrudecontemporary/ Bala Starr: https://weareuntold.org/2024-women-of-gold/bala-starr Kate Shaw: https://www.kateshaw.org/ | ht…

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