# I'd Hoped He Was Lying | The Phil Schneider Story (Ep 205)

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Podcast: [The InBetween Official Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-inbetween-official-podcast-7101516)
Published: 2026-04-01T11:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://inbetweenofficial.podbean.com/e/ep205/
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## Resource

In 1979, geologist Phil Schneider was lowered into a drill shaft beneath Dulce, New Mexico, and claims he came face to face with grey aliens living in a vast underground cavern. 66 men died in the firefight that followed. Phil spent 17 years in silence before going public. Documentary. Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/IiduslkkPvQ --------------------- Find our videos on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@TheInBetweenTales Brand and business Inquiries? - TheInBetween@ekhoinc.com

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