# Why Most Founders Are Wrong About Who Should Lead Their Company

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Podcast: [The iGaming Leader](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-igaming-leader-7100266)
Published: 2026-06-06T03:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of the iGaming Leader Podcast, Leo sits down with Ramiro Atucha, co-founder of Leander Games and Vibra Gaming, who has done something most founders never do twice: voluntarily stepped down as CEO of two companies he built from scratch. Ramiro pulls back the curtain on the painful reality of recognising when you are no longer the right person to lead what you created, the difference between ego and self-esteem, and why the best decisions of his life were not really decisions at all. The conversation spans two decades of building in iGaming, including the moment he stepped aside at Leander to bring in Steven Matsell, how Brazilian regulation is repeating the same mistakes as the UK and Germany, and why, at 50, he chose to become the Miyagi rather than start over again. Guest Bio Ramiro Atucha is a gaming industry executive and strategic advisor with more than 20 years of experience building and scaling businesses across Europe and Latin America. He co-founded Leander Games and later co-founded Vibra Gaming, helping build both into recognised industry names. He stepped down as CEO of Vibra in mid-2025 and launched Atucha Strategic Advisory in November 2025, where he works as a board-level advisor to operators, suppliers, and investors focused on growth strategy and market expansion across Latin America. Key Topics Discussed 00:00 – Stepping down from two companies you built: what it actually feels like. 03:00 – The Argentinian restaurant story: how Ramiro saved a Mastermind dinner in Barcelona. 05:00 – The morning you post on LinkedIn that you're leaving the company you co-founded. 07:00 – The accidental marriage proposal: why the best decisions aren't always decisions. 09:00 – As CEO, the ultimate responsibility is always yours. The cost of that over time…

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