# Tom & Sue Hardin On Wired On Wall Street

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Podcast: [The Human Risk Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-human-risk-podcast-1190411)
Published: 2026-02-28T19:36:29+00:00
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## Resource

What’s the difference between a mistake… and a bad decision? My guest knows this only too well. Tom Hardin has been on the show several times before. As Tipper X, he wore a wire for the FBI and helped build the largest insider trading investigation in US history. Since then, he has spent nearly a decade speaking to organisations around the world about slippery slopes, rationalisation, and how good people drift into serious trouble. In this episode, he returns to discuss his new book, Wired on Wall Street. The book goes beyond the insider trading case many listeners already know. It explores the ambition, insecurity and desire for status that shaped his early career, and the patterns he only recognised years later when writing it down. For the first time on a podcast, Tom is also joined by his wife, Sue. She played no role in the trades that changed his life, but her life was dramatically altered by them. She reflects on discovering the truth, keeping a secret that wasn’t hers, facing sentencing uncertainty, and what it means to rebuild together. This conversation isn’t really about insider trading; it’s about character. Key Themes Why calling something a “mistake” can soften accountability The psychology of slippery slopes and rationalisation Status anxiety and the need to belong Resume virtues vs eulogy virtues Shame versus guilt — and why the distinction matters The hidden impact of ethical failure on spouses and families What writing a book can reveal that telling a story on stage cannot The freedom that comes from having nothing left to hide Tom’s story is unusual; the human dynamics behind it are not. AI-Generated Timestamped Summary 00:00 – More than insider trading Why this conversation is about character — guilt vs shame, mistakes vs bad decisions, and the cost…

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