# James Healy on BS at Work (Bullshit & Behavioural Science)

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Podcast: [The Human Risk Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-human-risk-podcast-1190411)
Published: 2025-09-27T14:08:30+00:00
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Why do so many workplaces run on bullshit processes and procedures? And how might Behavioural Science help resolve them? Episode Summary In this episode, I sit down with author, speaker and advisor James Healy to explore his book BS at Work — and the everyday nonsense we all recognise inside organisations. James argues that while behavioural science has transformed public policy and consumer behaviour, workplaces have lagged behind. We dig into why leaders keep choosing rituals over results, why nobody seems to ask “does this actually work?”, and how our search for simple answers can make complex systems worse. I ask James to unpack some of his favourite stories, including the strange origins of the DISC personality test — created by Wonder Woman’s inventor, complete with “dominance” and “submission” baked in — and the utterly self-parodying experience he had with e-learning about not cheating on e-learning. 😳 We talk context vs. character, box-ticking vs. behaviour change, and why “I don’t know” is often the most honest answer in big organisations. We finish on what to do instead. James doesn’t offer commandments — he offers principles that sometimes even contradict each other, because context matters. Together we make the case for designing environments that make the desired behaviours easier, embracing complexity with humility, and asking better questions — especially when a shiny quick fix is on the table. GUEST BIO James is an author, speaker and executive advisor who applies behavioural science to organisational problems — with a mission to make workplaces more human. He's also the Founder and Managing Director of The Behaviour Boutique and host of The B-Word podcast, AI-GENERATED TIMESTAMPED SUMMARY [00:00:00] Introduction [00:03:00] James’s path: economics → ph…

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