# EP 44 The Dichotomous State of HR, AI, and a Huge Announcement At The Very End of The Empty Red Seat

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Podcast: [The HR Life Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-hr-life-podcast-7368906)
Published: 2026-04-14T12:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/5feef219
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Duration seconds: 5625

## Resource

Tony and Steve talk about the state of HR, AI, eating catnip, and the fact that HR is both doing well and in trouble. Tony's cynicism is both peaking and ebbing as he discusses HR with a wandering choo choo. The guys discuss what is going on in the world of HR consulting and fractional HR. Tony reads a post from Facebook and Steve gives a great HR in Life segment. But don't drop out of the podcast early. Steve makes a major announcement at the end of the podcast that you wont want to miss. Learn more about Fantastic Tony Benjamin at: https://www.thegrangellc.com/ Learn more about Steven “Big Deal” Smith at: https://thehiringtreebook.com/ Learn more about the books mentioned on the podcast at: https://thehiringtreebook.com/hr-life-podcast Learn more about our sponsor MegastarHR at: https://www.megastarhr.com/ Lean more about Jobs for America's Graduates (JAG) at: https://jag.org/ Learn more about The Thrive Life Project at: https://www.thrivelifeproject.org/ Quote of the Episode: "AI is great but it won't take you on a date." - TonyB.

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