# EP 35 Rat Birds, PEO's, and Your Business Knowledge With Stacee Pedersen Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-hr-life-podcast-7368906/ep-35-rat-birds-peo-s-and-your-business-knowledge-with-stacee-pedersen Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-hr-life-podcast-7368906/ep-35-rat-birds-peo-s-and-your-business-knowledge-with-stacee-pedersen.md Podcast: [The HR Life Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-hr-life-podcast-7368906) Published: 2026-02-10T13:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/c91a5145 Audio file: https://media.transistor.fm/c91a5145/b431a09e.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-hr-life-podcast-7368906/episodes/ep-35-rat-birds-peo-s-and-your-business-knowledge-with-stacee-pedersen Duration seconds: 5199 ## Resource In this episode the guys talk to Stacee Pedersen about everything from PEO's to groundhog day. They talk about why PEO's don't work for many companies, why its harder sometimes for consultants to affect the daily operation of a company, and of course, Stacee's entrepreneurial rise to power. The guys introduce a new segment called HR In Life. What happens when your star performer runs off every supervisor she has? Why are the Baltimore Rat Birds... errrrr... Baltimore Ravens, headed to their doom? Listen to the episode and find out. Learn more about Stacee Pedersen at: https://www.momentumemployergroup.com/ Find her Podcast at: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/waking-the-why/id1832387848 on Apple Podcasts. You can also find it on Youtube, Spotify and other platforms. Learn more about Fantastic Tony Benjamin at: https://www.thegrangellc.com/ Learn more about Steve "Big Deal" Smith at: https://thehiringtreebook.com/ Learn more about our Sponsor, MegaStarHR at: https://www.megastarhr.com/ Learn about books referenced on the podcast at: https://thehiringtreebook.com/hr-life-podcast Stacee Pedersen was not hurt in the recording of this episode. Stacee Pedersen is currently the Founder and President of Momentum Employer Group and COO of Winward Electric. Stacee has 25 years of experience in managing all aspects of Human Resources. Stacee was the VP of Human Resources for Zions Bancorporation and Director of Talent Management for PCC Structurals. Stacee earned her MBA from the University of Utah, completed her undergraduate degree in HR at Weber State University, and holds both a SHRM Senior Certified Professional (SHRM-SCP) as well as a Senior Professional in Human Resources (SPHR) certification. Stacee is a certified coach, trainer, and speaker through the John Maxwell… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-hr-life-podcast-7368906/episodes/ep-35-rat-birds-peo-s-and-your-business-knowledge-with-stacee-pedersen/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-hr-life-podcast-7368906/ep-35-rat-birds-peo-s-and-your-business-knowledge-with-stacee-pedersen.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.