# EP - 32 Dentist Elves, SHRM's Mistakes, Lawsuit Politics, and Clydesdales In the Empty Red Seat

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Podcast: [The HR Life Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-hr-life-podcast-7368906)
Published: 2026-01-20T13:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 4909

## Resource

In this episode the guys lay out SHRM's dirty laundry for everybody to see. They discuss the $11.5M case specifics, the rumored toxic work environment at national SHRM, and how politics play into it all. It needs to be said. They mention the HR Besties podcast and critique their takes and the attempts of some to take down SHRM and its local affiliates. Learn more about Tony "Two Weeks' Notice" Benjamin at: https://www.thegrangellc.com/ Learn more about Steven "Big Deal" Smith at: https://thehiringtreebook.com/ Learn more about our sponsor MegastarHR at: https://www.megastarhr.com/ Learn more about the books referenced on the podcast at: https://thehiringtreebook.com/hr-life-podcast This podcast supports Pucks for Autism. Learn more at: https://www.pucksforautism.com/ The podcast notes that no parakeets were harmed in the recording of this podcast, they volunteered their voices to contribute to the sunny nature of the episode.

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