# Santiago Ramos: A Hope for End Times

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Podcast: [The Hope Axis by Anna Gát](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-hope-axis-by-anna-g-t-7076854)
Published: 2025-06-20T12:24:16+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anna-gat/episodes/Santiago-Ramos-A-Hope-for-End-Times-e34gmtq
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## Resource

Santiago Ramos of Wisdom of Crowds joins me to talk about hope in apocalyptic times. AI, public philosophy, journalism, the aesthetics of urgent honesty, the value of disagreement, dialectics leading one to religion, whether crowds really are wise... ENJOY! For the full transcript of our conversation, click here . Important Links: Wisdom of Crowds Author Page at Plough Magazine Author Page at Commonweal Santiago’s Twitter/X Show Notes: (00:00) Intro (00:23) Guest Introduction (03:57) What gives Santiago Hope (06:44) What Does Human Flourishing Mean? (11:56) The Apocalyptic Aesthetic in Modern Discourse (21:47) The Personal Transformations of Anna and Santiago (32:11) The Next Great Synthesizers of our Tech Moment (40:42) Agreement is Nice, but Disagreement is Better (47:48) Apocalypse as Revelation (53:00) What's obvious to Santiago but not to Others

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