# What We are Learning from the Holy Wild about Spiritual Companionship with Deb Metzger and Elizabeth Rechter

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Podcast: [The Holy Wild with Victoria Loorz](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-holy-wild-with-victoria-loorz-7236147)
Published: 2025-07-26T13:04:10+00:00
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## Resource

What does it mean to listen with the Holy Wild? In this episode, Victoria Loorz is joined by Elizabeth Rechter and Deb Metzger—two seasoned spiritual companions and guides in the Eco-Spiritual Direction program from Seminary of the Wild Earth. Together they reflect on the sacred practice of holy listening in partnership with the more-than-human world, sharing stories of reciprocity, grief, and transformation that emerge from deep relationship with Earth. The conversation is both an invitation and a reminder: the wild trusts us, and in return, we are called to trust the holy within and all around us. Considering and discerning a call to be part of this new movement of ecospiritual direction? Apply today for the next cohort of the Seminary of the Wild Earth . The application deadline is August 15, 2025. Connect with the Center: Website: wildspirituality.earth Victoria's Website: victorialoorz.com Email: hello@wildspirituality.earth Linktree: linktr.ee/ctrforwildspirituality Instagram: @center_for_wild_spirituality Timestamps: 08:58 What Is Spiritual Direction, Elizabeth? 12:40 What Is Spiritual Direction, Deb? 13:55 Including the rest of the alive world 18:23 The Wild Approach 20:05 Holding Space 21:58 Reciprocity 23:48 Stories of the Spirit Directed Wild 27:03 Memory meeting us in the Wild 31:30 The Wild Share Her Pain Too 34:36 A Deconstruction The Culture That Has Incarcerated Us 37:30 The Non-Judging Wild 40:56 The Wild Trusts You 41:43 You May Feed The Birds By Hand 43:13 The Wind Speaks Of Suffering 47:03 Meaning In and From Relationship 49:18 The Playful Wild 51:59 Invitation 53:23 Valarie and a circle of Blue Violets 55:59 Outro

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