# The Path of True Eldership with Mac Macartney

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Podcast: [The Holy Wild with Victoria Loorz](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-holy-wild-with-victoria-loorz-7236147)
Published: 2026-02-14T09:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/65539503
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## Resource

In this conversation, Victoria Loorz connects with speaker, writer, and mentor Mac Macartney, founder of Embercombe, a UK educational charity and 50-acre retreat and rewilding site dedicated to the flourishing future of all species. In Victoria’s words, Mac is one of our generation’s true elders. He speaks from decades of lived apprenticeship, shaped by not fitting the dominant culture, by failure that became a gift, and by a lifelong search for home. His voice carries the embodied wisdom of someone who has moved through exile, betrayal, and the seduction of power, and chosen integrity. Mac reflects on decades of learning and on the unlearning required to remember the value of the miracle we were born into. He speaks of decency over brilliance, of integrity in the face of power, and of offering one’s gifts for the sake of future generations. At its heart, this is a conversation about integrity, about remaining in the field as long as one is able, and about creating places where there is no hiding truth. Connect with Mac: Website: macmacartney.com Talk Video: The Children's Fire Mentioned in the episode: Organization: The Earth Elders theearthelders.org Connect with the Center: Website: wildspirituality.earth Victoria's Website: victorialoorz.com Email: hello@wildspirituality.earth Linktree: linktr.ee/ctrforwildspirituality Instagram: @center_for_wild_spirituality Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction 05:15 – Interview Begins 12:09 – Embercombe 18:57 – Finding the Teachings We Need 24:30 – Letting the Gurus Go 26:58 – The Cycles of Human Becoming 29:53 – Born Into Cosmic Ceremony 32:14 – The Grief of Worldview Shifts 34:48 – Visited by Earth Elders 40:22 – A Benediction for Being Human 44:11 – Wild Invitation 46:12 – Credits

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