# 708: Mistaking Certainty for Maturity with Joshua Harris

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Published: 2026-02-18T11:00:00+00:00
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Thirty years ago, Joshua Harris became the cheerleader for purity culture with his book "I Kissed Dating Goodbye." Since then, he's apologized for the book, exited from ministry and his marriage, and announced he's no longer a Christian. He talks to Skye about his journey from fundamentalism to deconstructionism, and back toward curiosity about Jesus. Also this week, how the Trump administration is making paganism great again, why secular progressives are rediscovering the benefits of religion, and how Christians in Springfield, Ohio, have organized to protect Haitian immigrants from deportation. Plus, cannibal jellyfish are taking over Venice, and Phil has seen the wrap light. Holy Post Plus: Joshua Harris Bonus Interview: https://www.patreon.com/posts/151002394/ Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/151013259/ 2:15 - Theme Song 2:37 - Sponsor - Rocket Money - Find and cancel your old subscriptions with Rocket Money at https://www.rocketmoney.com/HOLYPOST 3:42 - Sponsor - Poncho - If you've been looking for the perfect shirt—something breathable, fits great, feels even better, and stands out in a good way—give Poncho a try. Get $10 off and free shipping your first order by using this link: https://www.ponchooutdoors.com/holypost 8:52 - Cannibal Jellyfish Attack Venice! 14:18 - Springfield Christians Help Haitian Immigrants 24:04 - Donald Trump, the Pagan King 35:19 - Secular Progressives Miss Religion 50:48 - Sponsor - PolicyGenius - Secure your family's tomorrow so you have peace of mind today. Go to https://www.policygenius.com/HOLYPOST to find the right life insurance for you 52:00 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first mon…

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