# 171: Lagging (Who You Are Is Most Important + People Pleaser)

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Podcast: [The Holy Ghost Notes Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-holy-ghost-notes-podcast-1165654)
Published: 2026-04-25T04:11:56+00:00
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## Resource

On episode one hundred and seventy one of Holy Ghost Notes, Matt records while on a moving tour bus and Tim races the clocks. The guys talk about the importance of character and how who you are and how you treat people matters more as a drummer than the skill of drumming itself. They also discuss people pleasing and the distinction of being "nice" versus being "kind" and the boldness behind saying what needs to be said sometimes.

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