# Live from ASU+GSV with Sara Leoni

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Podcast: [The Higher Ed Geek Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-higher-ed-geek-podcast-1126176)
Published: 2026-04-30T07:00:00+00:00
Episode link: http://higheredgeek.com/podcast
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## Resource

In this bonus episode recorded live at the ASU+GSV summit in San Diego, we spoke with Sara Leoni* of Ziplines Education about how higher education institutions can stay relevant in a rapidly changing skills landscape. They explore the growing importance of non-credit, career-aligned programs—especially in areas like AI—and how partnerships can help institutions deliver timely, workforce-ready training at scale. The conversation highlights the role of continuing education as a strategic asset, the rise of lifelong learning, and why institutions must balance traditional degree programs with more flexible, industry-driven offerings to meet evolving learner and employer needs. *There was a slight audio recording issue that cut the conversation short at the end, so we want to apologize for that hiccup. We nevertheless wanted to make sure we shared this discussion since the majority of the content was still intact.

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