# How to End America’s Meltdown and Save Democracy

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Podcast: [The Hartmann Report](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-hartmann-report-1122503)
Published: 2026-07-26T20:00:00+00:00
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Thom chats with Ben Wikler, Former WISDems Party Chair / Host, This is Wisconsin (on Civic Media) /Author, “This is the Plan: How to End America’s Meltdown and Save Democracy“ There’s no shortage of analysis about what’s wrong with the Democratic Party. Ben Wikler is focused on what Democrats plan to do about it. The former Wisconsin Democratic Party chair wrote "This Is the Plan," laying out lessons from one of the most closely divided states and what they could mean for Democrats nationwide. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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