# Bending Pharmacy Spend

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Podcast: [The Granite List Live](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-granite-list-live-6598764)
Published: 2026-04-08T05:55:49+00:00
Episode link: https://thegranitelist.live/e/bending-pharmacy-spend/
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## Resource

On this week’s episode of The Granite List. Live, Sally is joined by Anthony Hartley, Co-Founder and CEO of Patient Advisor LLC, as they dive into the hidden driver of pharmacy spend. Patients with autoimmune conditions and other chronic conditions take prescriptions that manage/mask symptoms without leading to remission or reversal of disease. This group of individuals may equal as much as 50% of pharmacy spend for an employer. Anthony details how cell therapies can help patients get better health outcomes at a lower cost to plan sponsors, raising the question of why such innovation has not been widespread yet.

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