# The Eras of Francis Fukuyama: The End of History and the Last Man Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-good-fight-1115114/the-eras-of-francis-fukuyama-the-end-of-history-and-the-last-man Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-good-fight-1115114/the-eras-of-francis-fukuyama-the-end-of-history-and-the-last-man.md Podcast: [The Good Fight](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-good-fight-1115114) Published: 2026-08-01T11:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pscrb.fm/rss/p/clrtpod.com/m/traffic.megaphone.fm/TGF4725960721.mp3 Audio file: https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pscrb.fm/rss/p/clrtpod.com/m/traffic.megaphone.fm/TGF4725960721.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-good-fight-1115114/episodes/the-eras-of-francis-fukuyama-the-end-of-history-and-the-last-man Duration seconds: 3723 ## Resource Yascha Mounk and Francis Fukuyama examine what people still get wrong about “the end of history.” Francis Fukuyama is the Olivier Nomellini Senior Fellow at Stanford University. His latest book is In the Realm of the Last Man. He is also the author of the “Frankly Fukuyama” column at Persuasion.  In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Francis Fukuyama discuss the true meaning of “the end of history,” why the struggle for recognition—rather than material interest—is the engine of historical progress, and how his thesis holds up 35 years on. Enjoying this discussion? In an event exclusively for readers of American Purpose and Persuasion, Yascha Mounk will be interviewing Francis Fukuyama about his life and thought at 5pm on Sunday, September 6 at The Abbey Centre, London. Find out more and get tickets here. Paying subscribers of Persuasion and American Purpose can access a code for a free ticket here. We’re delighted to feature this conversation as part of our series on Liberal Virtues and Values. This series, made possible with the generous support of the John Templeton Foundation, features content making the case that liberalism has its own distinctive set of virtues and values that are capable not only of responding to the dissatisfaction that drives authoritarianism, but also of restoring faith in liberalism as an ideology worth believing in—and defending—on its own terms. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following ⁠this link on your phone⁠. Email: leonora.barclay@persuasion.community Podcast production by Mickey Freeland and Leonora Barclay. Connect with us! ⁠Spotify⁠ | ⁠Apple⁠ X: ⁠@Yascha_Mounk⁠ & ⁠@JoinPersuasion⁠ YouTube: ⁠Yascha Mounk⁠, ⁠Persuasion⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Vi… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-good-fight-1115114/episodes/the-eras-of-francis-fukuyama-the-end-of-history-and-the-last-man/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-good-fight-1115114/the-eras-of-francis-fukuyama-the-end-of-history-and-the-last-man.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.