# #127 Meet the Neuroscientist Who Gave A Brain to Michael Levins Xenobot’s

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Podcast: [Giants Shoulder](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-giants-shoulder-6943930)
Published: 2026-06-08T14:52:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/evanmcgloughlin/episodes/127-Meet-the-Neuroscientist-Who-Gave-A-Brain-to-Michael-Levins-Xenobots-e3k26ng
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