# Logan & Jake Paul’s Mom Breaks Her Silence | Ep 140

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Podcast: [The George Janko Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-george-janko-show-6094744)
Published: 2026-01-29T19:55:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/george-janko2/episodes/Logan--Jake-Pauls-Mom-Breaks-Her-Silence--Ep-140-e3ec33p
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Duration seconds: 5788

## Resource

Season 4, Episode 1 is coming in hot after a long break—and we couldn’t have picked a better way to come back. Logan and Jake Paul’s mom sits down with me for a raw, unfiltered conversation you won’t expect. What starts as a story about raising two of the most famous brothers on the internet opens into untold moments, hard truths, and the real story behind her bold new book F the Pauls. We go deeper than we ever thought we would. Check out Pam’s book and follow her on social media to stay connected: Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Pauls-Written-their-Mother/dp/1964508495 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pam_stepnick/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pam_stepnick Follow George! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georgejanko Twitter: https://twitter.com/GeorgeJanko TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@georgejanko Follow Shawna! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shawnadellaricca/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@ShawnaDellaRicca Official Business Inquiries Email: George@divisionmedia.co Chapters: 00:00 Juicy Book & Going Deeper 02:10 Why She Made These Choices 03:55 Meeting Pam Stepnick 06:40 Raising Kids in the Public Eye 09:30 Fame Came Faster Than We Expected 12:45 Being a Mom While the World Watched 16:05 The Cost of Internet Fame 19:30 Divorce and Personal Responsibility 23:40 Guilt, Regret, and Forgiveness 27:10 Losing Control as a Parent 30:55 Letting Go of Your Kids 34:20 Faith When Life Falls Apart 37:50 Questioning God in Hard Seasons 41:10 God Never Left Me 44:45 Learning to Trust Again 48:30 Why She Wrote the Book 52:10 Reliving Pain Through Writing 56:00 Advice for Struggling Parents 59:40 Letting Your Kids Be Themselves 1:03:20 Faith Isn’t About Control 1:07:10 What I’d Do Differently 1:10:45 Message to Logan & Jake 1:15:00 Healing Takes Time 1:18:3…

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