# How do wars change when AI takes over?

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Podcast: [The General & The Journalist](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-general-the-journalist-7337304)
Published: 2026-02-05T00:01:00+00:00
Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/times-war/episodes/superintelligence
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In the space race and the arms race, only a human could determine an outcome. But what happens in war when AI, and not a human, takes the decision to pull the trigger? If AI can equal human capabilities, Artificial 'superintelligence' is smarter, potentially putting ASI beyond human control. Jon Wolfsthal worked in the Obama White House on nuclear non-proliferation. He, like scores of others in defence, diplomacy and AI, has signed a petition calling for a ban on superintelligence, unless and until it can be controlled. He joined Patrick and Tom from New York to spell out exactly why we must stop our nuclear and biological weapons being run by machines. But, don't worry, it gets lighter. Jon is a massive fan of sci-fi. Turns out, so are Patrick and Tom. The three of them swap film and book faves, from Prometheus to Frankenstein, Alien to Terminator, and talk about how they all foreshadowed this artificial intelligence moment. Hosts: General Sir Patrick Sanders and Tom Newton Dunn Guest: Jon Wolfsthal Producer: Sophie McNulty Clip: Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc. Photo: Getty Images Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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