# How AI drones are changing the war in Ukraine

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Podcast: [The General & The Journalist](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-general-the-journalist-7337304)
Published: 2026-06-03T23:01:00+00:00
Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/times-war/episodes/how-ai-drones-are-ending-the-stalemate-in-ukraine
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## Resource

Nearly four years into Russia’s full-scale invasion, Ukraine is trying to change the course of the war with drones, AI and battlefield innovation. What began as improvised technology has become central to Kyiv’s strategy, helping Ukraine defend the front line and strike deeper into Russia. But can drones really help Ukraine break the deadlock? And what does this mean for the future of war? Patrick and Tom speak to leading military analyst Dr Jack Watling about the reality on the front line, the rise of AI-enabled warfare and the ethical questions it raises. Hosts: General Sir Patrick Sanders and Tom Newton Dunn Guest: Dr Jack Watling, Senior Research Fellow at the Royal United Services Institute Producer: Shabnam Grewal and Julia Webster Executive producer: Priyanka Deladia Image: Dinesh Mehta and Getty Clip: CNN Can drones and AI help Ukraine break the deadlock or make the war more dangerous? Get in touch: generalandjournalist@thetimes.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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