# 16 Years. Mexico. Again. | Bafana's Night, Winnie's Trial & SA's Unfinished Business

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Podcast: [The Gareth Cliff Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-gareth-cliff-show-1024285)
Published: 2026-06-12T08:06:00+00:00
Episode link: https://iono.fm/e/1685446
Audio file: https://dl.iono.fm/epi/prov_179/epi_1685446_high.mp3?p=rss
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Duration seconds: 7769

## Resource

Bafana's World Cup opener ends in red cards and heartbreak — Gareth and Ben pick through the pieces. Then Deidre Broodryk-Ward's Window Seat takes us to the Kruger (and a few escapes closer to Joburg), before Ivor Ichikowitz, Executive Producer of Netflix's The Trials of Winnie Mandela, joins for a compelling chat about the docuseries and the legacy it explores. Football, bushveld and history — all in one episode

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