# Rare Arizona program lets non-lawyers own law firms Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-gaggle-an-arizona-politics-podcast-1119050/rare-arizona-program-lets-non-lawyers-own-law-firms Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-gaggle-an-arizona-politics-podcast-1119050/rare-arizona-program-lets-non-lawyers-own-law-firms.md Podcast: [The Gaggle: An Arizona politics podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-gaggle-an-arizona-politics-podcast-1119050) Published: 2026-02-25T12:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/AZUSA9635886141.mp3?updated=1771999748 Audio file: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/AZUSA9635886141.mp3?updated=1771999748 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-gaggle-an-arizona-politics-podcast-1119050/episodes/rare-arizona-program-lets-non-lawyers-own-law-firms Duration seconds: 1320 ## Resource Lawyers are there with guaranteed expertise to help sort out your issues, even when time and money can be scarce. But the guaranteed expertise doesn't necessarily go all the way to the top. At least not in Arizona. Now there is a stream of complaints from customers being misled, mistreated and scammed, and the Arizona Supreme Court might be rethinking its oversight. This week on The Gaggle, we talk with an Arizona Republic reporter about her recent investigation into the Arizona Supreme Court's decision to loosen ownership rules for law firms. Email us! thegaggle@arizonarepublic.com Leave us a voicemail: 602-444-0804 Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tik Tok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Laura Gersony Hosts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ron Hansen⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Stephanie Murray Producer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amanda Luberto⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-gaggle-an-arizona-politics-podcast-1119050/episodes/rare-arizona-program-lets-non-lawyers-own-law-firms/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-gaggle-an-arizona-politics-podcast-1119050/rare-arizona-program-lets-non-lawyers-own-law-firms.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.