# Outspoken: This is why education always must strive to be inclusive

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Podcast: [The Gaggle: An Arizona politics podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-gaggle-an-arizona-politics-podcast-1119050)
Published: 2026-06-19T12:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/AZUSA6251563400.mp3
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Duration seconds: 995

## Resource

As president of Arizona State University since 2002 and the architect of what he calls a New American University, President Dr. Michael Crow has spent 2 decades trying to design a public institution that aligns itself with the country’s founding promise of government by and for the people — not by and for the already‑privileged few. In this Outspoken conversation, Crow argues that if America was born in conscious rejection of hereditary power, its universities should be just as intentional about breaking from the exclusionary, class‑bound traditions they inherited from Britain and Europe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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