# Diet Culture Recovery, OCD, and Size Inclusive Fashion: Viva Voce Founder Kate Zigrang on What Healing Actually Requires (Part Two)

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Published: 2026-06-08T12:49:23+00:00
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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit abbieattwoodwellness.substack.com This is part two of my conversation with Kate Zigrang, founder of Viva Voce — and this is where everything shifts. To hear it: abbieattwoodwellness.substack.com/subscribe We left off last week with Kate at a turning point: an OCD diagnosis, a doctor who finally told her the truth about her health, and something beginning to loosen. This episode is about what came next — the harder, slower, more relational work of actually stepping out of diet culture after a lifetime inside it. We cover: * Going no contact with her parents — the decision, the grief, and what space it created * The complicated dynamic with her mom: over-apologizing, enmeshment, and why leaving felt both impossible and necessary * The slow, specific work of separating her own body from her mother's — learning to look at herself without dread * Religious deconstruction happening simultaneously with the body acceptance work and the mental health work — all three threads unraveling at once * The Manhattan pants incident — eighteen months of traveling the world, unable to find a single pair of pants in her size anywhere in New York City, and the rage that became a turning point * What Viva Voce actually is — a marketplace vetting brands for ethics, sustainability, and genuine size inclusivity * Why she insists on carrying straight and plus sizes in the same space * The pop-up strategy — and why she's bringing it to smaller cities on purpose * A data project collecting real body measurements to understand how clothes could actually be made better * Why belonging is at the center of every decision she makes — and what that looks like in practice This episode is for paid subscribers. If you'd like access to this conv…

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