# Henry Nowak murder: is Farage right to say UK has two-tier policing?

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Podcast: [The Fourcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-fourcast-1366209)
Published: 2026-06-03T16:10:38+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thefourcastc4news/episodes/Henry-Nowak-murder-is-Farage-right-to-say-UK-has-two-tier-policing-e3k9r7f
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The death of Henry Novak has sparked more than just grief; it has ignited a fierce debate over the state of British policing and the "rage" currently gripping the nation. While the Prime Minister accuses Reform UK leader Nigel Farage of ignoring the Novak family’s pleas for unity, Nigel Farage claims the incident is proof of "two-tier policing" - a justice system he argues treats people differently based on who they are. But is this a genuine case of systemic bias, or a tragic failure of training and human error in the heat of the moment? And as "identity politics" moves from university lecture halls into police training manuals, are we losing sight of the common ground needed to hold a diverse society together? On today’s episode of The Fourcast, Ciaran Jenkins is joined by Sundar Katwala, Director of British Future, academic and author Lisa McKenzie, and former Policing Minister John Denham to ask: is Britain’s policing truly broken, or is it simply a mirror reflecting our deepest national divisions?

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