# Ep 247 - Intra-Relational Behaviour Support.

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Podcast: [The Forest School Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-forest-school-podcast-1141815)
Published: 2026-06-11T18:28:32+00:00
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What if the secret to better behaviour support in forest school isn't focusing on the child at all? Lewis and Wem are back for a wide-ranging, woodland-based chat that opens with lime plaster, kilts, and a mosaic pizza oven before diving into some genuinely rich territory: what does it actually mean to take an intraaction-based approach to behaviour? How do you move away from old-school "fix the child" thinking without sliding into permissiveness? And what can a day of interpretive dance, collective poetry, and drama research in Bristol teach us about forest school pedagogy? Plus: squirrels, rabbits round the fire pit, the Southwest FSA Gathering, tenon cutters, and Wem's mysterious single-name workshop listing at the national conference. Chapter Titles and Timestamps: 0:00 - Lime plaster, kilts, and a mosaic pizza oven 2:00 - Wearing messy, child-made things as a badge of honour 4:29 - Following up on Dr Wendy Russell: intraaction and behaviour support 6:54 - Old-school behaviour management vs. shifting what you can actually control 8:50 - The soup of a person: inner worlds, neuroplasticity, and fixed mindset language 14:20 - Persistent offering and not closing doors too early 17:53 - Is intraaction-based behaviour support just permissive? 20:02 - The communal cooking example: setting people up to succeed 22:27 - How loudly does John's sadness exist? On heterarchy and roles 26:07 - The Tangled Roots of Creative Research and Social Justice, Bristol 33:42 - The Conference of Trees and the value of cross-disciplinary spaces 35:49 - Space-setting intentions vs. ground rules: lessons from a research day 40:12 - The Southwest FSA Gathering at Hateford Woods 41:10 - Tenon cutters, turmeric dyeing, and beatboxing 44:29 - National conference plans, and Wem's workshop: Looking…

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