# Ep 234 - Ludobotany 1: Tree Climbing

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Podcast: [The Forest School Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-forest-school-podcast-1141815)
Published: 2025-12-05T18:21:25+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3494

## Resource

In this lively Ludo Botany special, we explore tree climbing as play, practice, and design. Lewis brings fresh research on branch collars, spacing, and load strength while Gemma brings lived experience on how different trees invite different kinds of movement. From laurel and rhododendron “nest” trees to coppice stools and swooping live-oak ramps, they unpack species, shapes, and access. The chat ranges across myths and heuristics, defender branches, orthotropic versus horizontal shoots, group dynamics in shared trees, how adult presence changes the climb, and why our bodies feel different in trees compared with ladders. It wraps with a community callout for your best natural loose parts for the next Ludo Botany episode. 🌳 ⏱ Chapter Timings 00:44 – New cold open, studio fidgets, and scene-setting 02:30 – Ludo Botany focus: tree climbing, research versus lived experience 06:16 – Myths to mechanics: collar development, spacing, and those wrist-width rules 12:34 – Trees on slopes, branch distribution, and what that means for access 15:09 – Defender branches, orthotropic versus horizontal shoots, and bark wear 20:19 – “Nest” trees and fallen logs: comfort, horizontality, and play worlds 23:14 – Species and cultivation: coppice, mini-pollards, and live-oak style ramps 33:25 – Adult gaze, crowding, etiquette, and height as status in shared trees 37:30 – Bodies and brains: startle reflex, evolution, and why trees beat ladders 54:31 – Next up: loose parts callout and how to send in voice notes 🌲 Keywords: Ludo Botany, tree climbing, branch collar strength, defender branches, orthotropic shoots, coppice and pollard, live oaks, laurel and rhododendron nests, group dynamics, inclusive play design 🎧 Catch the full episode: Spotify: https://shorturl.at/4WdyI YouTube: https://shortu…

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