# Ex-MAGA influencer explains why he abandoned Trump

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Podcast: [The Find Out Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-find-out-podcast-7258304)
Published: 2026-06-30T07:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

The crew is back after one of the riskiest bookings they’ve ever made — and it paid off.Tim, Rich, Luke, and Zak bring on NeverWoke, an ex-MAGA influencer who built his following inside MAGA and is now publicly taking it apart. He’s early in his deconstruction, but when he got pressed on the ugliest parts of his record, he owned it. After their conversation, the guys talk through what it means to platform someone like that, why they almost didn’t, and why they’re glad they did.If you’ve got a disaffected Trump voter in your life, this one might be the ammo you hand them. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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