# Kevin Durant Couldn't Bench 135?! Mike Catherwood & Schaub React | TFATK Ep. 1183

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Podcast: [The Fighter & The Kid](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-fighter-the-kid-887133)
Published: 2026-04-23T09:00:00+00:00
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Brendan Schaub and Mike dive deep into one of the most controversial debates in sports and life: talent vs hard work. Is hard work really enough to succeed, or are some people just built different? The conversation breaks down real examples from elite athletes, including stories about NBA stars, UFC fighters, and the mindset it takes to compete at the highest level. Schaub explains why “hard work beats talent” isn’t always true—and why the combination of talent and work ethic is what truly separates champions. They also get into broader cultural topics, including youth sports burnout, the pressure of modern competition, and how systems like education and parenting impact success. Plus, a raw discussion on Texas vs California culture, crime, and lifestyle differences adds another viral layer to the episode. If you're into UFC, MMA, athlete mentality, or real talk about success, this episode hits hard. Topics include: UFC mindset and elite fighters Talent vs hard work debate Youth sports and burnout Texas vs California culture differences Success, discipline, and reality checks Get this episode and all future episodes AD FREE + 2 extended episodes, Fan Questions, exclusive behind the scenes content and more each month at https://www.patreon.com/tfatk O'Reilly - https://oreillyauto.com/FIGHTER See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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