# Looking Elsewhere Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-fifth-wave-7354161/looking-elsewhere Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-fifth-wave-7354161/looking-elsewhere.md Podcast: [The Fifth Wave](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-fifth-wave-7354161) Published: 2025-11-12T10:00:17+00:00 Episode link: https://www.spreaker.com/episode/looking-elsewhere--66343617 Audio file: https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66343617/iwk_5th_wave_e6_final_mix.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-fifth-wave-7354161/episodes/looking-elsewhere Duration seconds: 1327 ## Resource Where does Canada sit on the world stage when it comes to women’s healthcare? We have some catching up to do. In this episode of The Fifth Wave: Curing the Healthcare Bias Against Women, we look at what places like the UK, Australia and Nordic countries are doing right, and what we can learn from them. Expert voices Dr. Jocelynn Cook and Dr. Martha Hickey weigh in on the importance of data, as well as tailored policies and community informed research. While systems differ, it’s clear that in order to move forward, Canada must build a women centred strategy that reflects its own reality. And that starts by listening to women and gathering the right data. Key Takeaways: Countries like the UK and Australia have national strategies for women’s health that include menopause care, stillbirth prevention and access to contraception and abortion. The barrier in Canada is solvable. Differences in delivery from province to province can make national coordination difficult, but we can still adopt best practices rooted in solid gender specific data. It has to start with listening to women. With accurate data on women’s health issues, we can start to build an effective strategy. Asking women what they want is the first step towards real progress. ---- Dr. Jocelynn Cook, Chief Scientific Officer for the Society of Obstetricians and Gynecologists of Canada. https://www.pehe-esep.ca/jocelynn-cook Dr. Martha Hickey, Professor of Obstetrics and Gynaecology at the University of Melbourne. https://www.thewomens.org.au/research/research-centres/womens-gynaecology-research-centre/wgrc-our-people/martha-hickey The Fifth Wave is produced by Story Studio Network . ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-fifth-wave-7354161/episodes/looking-elsewhere/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-fifth-wave-7354161/looking-elsewhere.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.