# John Mark McMillan - Deep Magic part 2

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Podcast: [The Ferment Podcast - Conversations About Worship And Transformation](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ferment-podcast-conversations-about-worship-and-transformation-1154184)
Published: 2024-03-11T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of The Ferment, Adam continues his conversation with John Mark McMillan. John Mark shares some wisdom with young creators about playing the long game, making a heart connection with the listeners, vulnerability and building a team. They also talk about the role of ritual in surpassing the surface magic to cultivate moments of deep magic. John Mark McMillan is an artist and Platinum-selling songwriter. Show Notes: John Mark McMillan's Website Listen to Deep Magic John Mark on The Ferment 10/25/20 John Mark on The Ferment 9/18/19

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