# The same data that’s out there about you can also be used against you and now it is

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Podcast: [The Federal Drive with Terry Gerton](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-federal-drive-with-terry-gerton-504783)
Published: 2026-05-29T11:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Reports of an Iranian‑linked group contacting U.S. troops using their own personal data points to a shift in cyber conflict from networks to people. It’s direct, personal and hard to defend against. Ron Zayas, CEO of Ironwall, joins me with what that means for service members and the federal workforce. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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