# Cultural Catalysts:
The Leaders of the Future

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Published: 2026-05-26T15:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Check out the Program Execution System Toolkit: https://implementgpts.com/pestoolkit =============== In this episode of The Expert Method , Ian Gatzke sits down with Jaclyn Orent , co-founder and systems architect of the Cultural Catalyst Network , for a conversation about leadership, identity, consciousness, and what it means to build for the future. Jaclyn argues that the leaders of the next era will not simply be people who build companies. They will be cultural catalysts — people who redefine normal by creating new ways of leading, serving, collaborating, and building systems that contribute to life instead of extracting from it. The conversation explores why business needs to shift from self-serving goals to whole-serving impact, how identity shapes behavior, why self-leadership is foundational during periods of disruption, and why sustained change is impossible to do alone. Jaclyn also breaks down ideas from intentional change theory, the science of scaling, consciousness research, emotional regulation, and collective shared vision. This is a conversation about the kind of leadership the future may require — not just more strategy, more growth, or more information, but a deeper shift in how we lead ourselves, build with others, and serve the whole. =============== Jaclyn’s Links: - Website: https://www.culturalcatalysts.net/ - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaclynorent - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kova.orent/ =============== - My LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ian-gatzke/ - Schedule Free Blueprinting Call: https://api.leadconnectorhq.com/widget/bookings/implement-ai-blueprinting =============== Highlights: 00:00 — Ray Dalio & Meditation 01:59 — Meet Jaclyn Orent 02:04 — Redefining Normal 05:13 — New Business Models 07:07 — Service Over S…

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