# The Post-2021 Autoimmune Surge Nobody Wants to Talk About | Dr. Leland Stillman

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Podcast: [The Evolving Wellness Podcast with Sarah Kleiner Wellness](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-evolving-wellness-podcast-with-sarah-kleiner-wellness-2136142)
Published: 2026-05-13T11:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

On the Evolving Wellness podcast, host Sarah Kleiner interviews Dr. Leland Stillman (general internist; Substack Dr. Stillman Uncensored) about leaving conventional medicine, speaking out on COVID and vaccines, and building a practice largely serving autoimmune, chronic fatigue/fibromyalgia, long COVID, and reported vaccine-injury patients; he says many symptoms cluster around pain, fatigue, brain fog, anxiety, and depression. Stillman argues lab values can fluctuate widely (often ~20% day to day, sometimes far more), making single readings, thyroid-replacement strategies based on free T3, and AI-generated direct-to-consumer lab reports misleading; he cites reference-range issues (e.g., cholesterol cutoffs) and emphasizes repeat testing and clinical context. He discusses his book The End of Autoimmunity, reporting a 2025 survey of 103 patients with self-reported gains in wellbeing, energy, sleep, and cognition, and outlines a “14 Day Reset” centered on morning sunlight, walking, hydration, earlier bedtime, and dimming lights. Names mentioned include Dr. Anna Maria Temple, Chris Exley, Catherine Austin Fitts, Del Bigtree, Brian Johnson, Neil Stone, Jack Dorsey, Glenn Jeffrey, and Dr. Tina, alongside brands VivaRays and Boncharge. — Links Mentioned in the video: https://store.stillmanmd.com/discount/SARAHKLEINER?ref=SARAHK https://stillmanmd.com/autoimmunity/ https://x.com/StillmanMD?mx=2 https://www.instagram.com/stillmanmd/ https://drstillmanuncensored.com/ _________ Sponsored By: → VivaRays | This episode is sponsored by VivaRays - VivaRays Blue - code YOGI https://vivarays.com/ → Bon Charge | Go to https://boncharge.com/products/demi-red-light-device?rfsn=8108115.26608d & use code SARAHKLEINER for 15% off storewide. _________ Timestamp: 00:00 Coming up 00:50 Podc…

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