# A Rogerian Ontology of Breastfeeding with Special Guest Olena S. Dobczansky, MSN, RNC-MNN, IBCLC, C-ONQS, LCCE

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Podcast: [The Evolve Lactation Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-evolve-lactation-podcast-7095072)
Published: 2025-09-29T10:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://ibclcinca.substack.com/p/a-rogerian-ontology-of-breastfeeding
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## Resource

If you’re thinking “I don’t know what a Rogerian ontology is,” fear not. I didn’t know either until my very special guest, Olena Dobczansky explained it all to me in this episode of the Evolve Lactation Podcast. Yes, that’s right: the podcast is back! I’m very excited to launch Season 4 with this amazing episode. If you like to talk about, study, read about, and generally think about breastfeeding, this episode is for you! Settle in and listen, and when you’re done, if you want to share your feedback, I’ve got just the place for you: The Evolve Lactation Community on Circle. Join for free right here and let’s get the conversation spreading! You can also find me and Olena on LinkedIn: Christine Staricka Olena Dobczansky Summary In this engaging conversation, Christine Staricka and Olena Dobczansky explore the complexities of breastfeeding and lactation, emphasizing the importance of clear definitions, the impact of commercial interests, and the need for personalized care in maternal health. Olena shares her journey as a clinician and the development of her Rogerian ontology of breastfeeding, which seeks to clarify the distinctions between breastfeeding and lactation. The discussion highlights the challenges faced by new mothers, the role of technology, and the necessity for healthcare professionals to communicate effectively and empathetically with their patients. Chapters and Timestamps 00:00 Introduction to Olena Dobczansky 02:52 The Journey of a Lifelong Learner 05:59 Navigating Information Overload in Maternal Health 08:54 Introducing the Rogerian Ontology of Breastfeeding 11:58 The Importance of Language in Lactation 15:11 Distinguishing Between Breastfeeding and Lactation 17:49 Challenges in Postpartum Care 20:57 The Role of Technology in Breastfeeding Support 23:…

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