# #117 - C. L. Max Nikias

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Podcast: [The Eric Metaxas Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-eric-metaxas-show-522820)
Published: 2026-05-13T23:32:05+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-eric-metaxas-show20/episodes/117---C--L--Max-Nikias-e3jb2du
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## Resource

Today On The Eric Metaxas Show, Eric talks with former USC President C. L. Max Nikias about his new book American Trojan, his journey from a refugee childhood in Cyprus to the presidency of the University of Southern California, and what his story reveals about the American Dream. They also discuss the collapse of academic standards, the rise of identity politics in higher education, the loss of the Western classics, the future of universities in the age of AI, and what it would take to renew American education. Subscribe for clips from The Eric Metaxas Show to hear politics and culture from a Christian perspective.⭐ PRE-ORDER TODAY:Revolution: The Birth of the Greatest Nation in the History of the World📕: https://a.co/d/0ir3Nlap TODAY'S SPONSORS:⭐ FREE SLAVES with CSI: https://csi-usa.org/metaxas/ 📢 Don’t Let the Financial Storm Destroy Your Wealth and Future! https://www.metaxasgoldira.com/ ⚖️ Legal Help Center - Get Free Legal Help Today: https://www.legalhelpcenter.com/ 🛏️ MyPillow — Save BIG with code ERIC: https://www.mypillow.com/ ☀️ Honest, fast, and free Medicare plan guidance: https://askchapter.com/metaxas/ 💧 Sentry H2O: https://sentryh2o.com/

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