# 18: What Is the Future of Hydrogen as a Fuel?

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Podcast: [The Energy Forum](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-energy-forum-7083503)
Published: 2025-11-12T17:03:52+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of “The Energy Forum,” energy and transportation policy fellow Ed Emmett talks with Michael Graff, former chairman and CEO of American Air Liquide, about hydrogen’s past, present, and future. Together, they explore how this versatile fuel fits into today’s energy transition and what it will take to make it a truly global solution. This conversation was recorded on Oct. 29, 2025. Follow Ed Emmett on X (@EdEmmett) and LinkedIn. You can follow @BakerInstitute and @CES_Baker_Inst on X, Instagram, LinkedIn, and YouTube. Learn more about our data-driven, nonpartisan policy research and analysis at bakerinstitute.org.

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